Further Light and Knowledge

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Praise Elohim! Now on to the Elders......

(tongue firmly in cheek)

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People Who Don't Want Their Beliefs Laughed At Shouldn't Have Such Funny Beliefs.

We truly live in an age of miracles.

Now if they could teach them all how to talk to adults in grown up voices, instead of reverting to Primary speaking and going into some weird trance-like state when reciting scriptures.

The last sister missionaries that stopped by freaked me right the fuck out!

The conduits of heaven are truly opening for the LDS church. Two miracles in one week! How could anybody not beleive! This miracle is almost as monumental as Hinckley's revelation that made every member a building custodian.

The next thing you know, we'll all be walking back to Missouri to restore Zion (if we still believe this).

M.P.

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Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.

~Albert Einstein

History is not history unless it is the truth.

Abraham Lincoln

And . . . one of the comments about this article:


How does TSCC make announcements with sensitive information like this - or is this just another one of those LDS rumors that's useful but not true?

What would BKP say about allowing women to put on their bra before their sacred holy garment top? Someone is mocking his power and authority. I bet he's pissed about this.

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It's good to talk about these things and to sort out the messed up mindfuck we were in.
- SIMS

That one gets a lot of air time on Fem Mo Housewives...and somehow The Word is spreading: YES LADIES, IT'S TRUE; YOU CAN CHOOSE HOW TO POSITION YOUR OWN UNDERTHINGS THAT WE FORCE YOU TO WEAR. Srsly. A goddamn miracle that is.

So that leads me to this week's question:

Ladies, when wearing the holy G's, you would wear your bra over them. Right? Tell me I'm not crazy in thinking that this is NOT comfortable ....

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"To those seaching for truth - not the truth of dogma and darkness but the truth brought by reason, search, examination, and inquiry, discipline is required. For faith, as well intentioned as it may be, must be built on facts, not fiction - faith in fiction is a damnable false hope." - Thomas Edison

Wait--there's an actual policy on the bra/garment ordering thing now? I've got to see it--

I always thought that was just something that apostates like me THOUGHT women should be able to choose. I know my wife was instructed in the temple that the bra has to go over the garments (that would've been 2006), and that's still the way she insists is the "correct" way to wear them (regardless of what she might prefer).

I was instructed that I could wear the garment tops either way, but that the preference should be with the bra on top. This, to make sure the holiness is closest to the skin I guess?

So- that is the way I wore them, and got used to, and in fact I didn't like them over the garments for two reasons: With them under, I could keep them from riding up and getting in the way of my shirt neckline... the bra held them where I wanted them. And secondly, with them over, if I had any kind of fitted shirt, you could easily see the markings over the breast. Highly embarrassing.

The other point of controversy is how to wear the garment bottoms when you are on your period. With underwear over or under or just the garments only? Any woman can tell you that you need something besides garment bottoms during that time.... they are just not practical!

The fact that a church can have people wringing their hands about the proper way to wear underwear is just ludicrous. And is one of the many reasons I am glad I am no longer part of it.

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What other people think about me is none of my business.

Wow, reading those comments is like stepping into a time warp to circa 1906.

I've heard that the bra/garment thing has always varied widely by temple matron, as to what the rule is or whether a rule even exists. Because nothing is written in a handbook about such things, communication tends to devolve like a game of telephone.

I think this is correct. I was told (I went through the Provo temple) that you had to wear them OVER the Gs because the garment was supposed to be next to the skin. We weren't even given other options to consider. But I've been told by others that they were given a choice one way or the other, that there wasn't a rule or a policy.

So lots of it just could be that a certain matron had always done it that way and that's the way everybody else had to, as well, or whatever.

In my case, the temple matron never even mentioned what to do about your period. I had to struggle around with that one (if I couldn't wear the bra between me and the garms then certainly I couldn't wear underwear) for awhile until I finally went, oh, the heck with this, and just used underwear under the garments. Sheesh. What a victory THAT was for freedom of conscience.

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The apple cannot be stuck back on the Tree of Knowledge; once we begin to see, we are doomed and challenged to seek the strength to see more, not less. ~ Arthur Miller

Absolutely spot on! The reason for this, of course, is that before going on their missions the only training they get is in primary. Primary is always short of teachers and the thinking is that prospective missionaries are ideal, as they will learn for the mission.

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Mankind is evil because God made man in his own image.

It's just another part of the "unwritten order of things". If you are righteous enough, you will figure out the true way to do it.

If you feel like getting annoyed today, I recommend reading Boyd Packer's talk on the unwritten order. I swear, the whole point of those rules is to make new members or other people who have no reason to know better feel stupid or to show them who is most important.

I am in a bad mood today. So watch out. Only in Mormondom would anyone be having this discussion. Written rules or not, it is nobody's fucking business how someelse wears his or her underwear, if that person person masturbates or watches "R" or "X" rated movies or even drinks coffee or alcohol for that matter. That is society's unwritten order of things! Under society's unwritten order of things, anyone who obsesses over whether another person masturbates or feels that they have a God given right to ask young teenagers about such matters is a fucking pervert, apostle or not! So stick it up your fucking ass you Pecker, I mean Packer, and eat shit while you are at it.

M.P.

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Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.

~Albert Einstein

History is not history unless it is the truth.

Abraham Lincoln